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		<title>Comment on Watchdog slaps big-ticket fine on Sistic by Tim Roberts</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2010/06/07/watchdog-slaps-big-ticket-fine-on-sistic/#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1155723/1/.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sistic appeals against CCS finding&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Sistic is appealing against the Competition Commission of Singapore&#039;s (CCS) finding last year that it had abused its dominant position to block other firms from competing. It is also seeking to reduce the S$989,000 fine imposed by the CCS.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1155723/1/.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Sistic appeals against CCS finding</strong></a> </p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Sistic is appealing against the Competition Commission of Singapore&#8217;s (CCS) finding last year that it had abused its dominant position to block other firms from competing. It is also seeking to reduce the S$989,000 fine imposed by the CCS.</em>&#8221; </p>
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		<title>Comment on CTS Eventim Partners With iTunes On Ticket Offers by Leer Articulos</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2009/11/11/cts-eventim-partners-with-itunes-on-ticket-offers-2/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leer Articulos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are exactly right with this one!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are exactly right with this one!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isn&#8217;t it time you looked at integrating ticketing on Facebook? by David</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/29/isnt-it-time-you-looked-at-integrating-ticketing-on-facebook/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently an iframe within in FB is secure, and using PatronBase iframe option allows to do the whole booking without leaving facebook.  www.facebook.com/thepumphouse 

It is not only the ability to book tickets through FB but the whats on listing and with the iframe integration I only needed to set it up once and it is always up to date.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently an iframe within in FB is secure, and using PatronBase iframe option allows to do the whole booking without leaving facebook.  <a href="http://www.facebook.com/thepumphouse" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/thepumphouse</a> </p>
<p>It is not only the ability to book tickets through FB but the whats on listing and with the iframe integration I only needed to set it up once and it is always up to date.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isn&#8217;t it time you looked at integrating ticketing on Facebook? by Tim Roberts</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/29/isnt-it-time-you-looked-at-integrating-ticketing-on-facebook/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David

Good to hear from you.

Others may be best placed to provide an answer on the security or otherwise of an iframe implementation.

My guessstimate is that whether offering a booking process online on its own or framed in a Facebook page is similar. The area of potential impact is the actual level of integration with Facebook via API or similar.

Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David</p>
<p>Good to hear from you.</p>
<p>Others may be best placed to provide an answer on the security or otherwise of an iframe implementation.</p>
<p>My guessstimate is that whether offering a booking process online on its own or framed in a Facebook page is similar. The area of potential impact is the actual level of integration with Facebook via API or similar.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isn&#8217;t it time you looked at integrating ticketing on Facebook? by David Martin</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/29/isnt-it-time-you-looked-at-integrating-ticketing-on-facebook/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We at The PumpHouse Theatre in NZ have been playing around with integrating ticketing and what&#039;s on for a while now thanks to great iframe support through PatronBase (still a few small things to iron out).  The question I do have however, how secure is it running the complete booking process within an iframe within a FB page?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We at The PumpHouse Theatre in NZ have been playing around with integrating ticketing and what&#8217;s on for a while now thanks to great iframe support through PatronBase (still a few small things to iron out).  The question I do have however, how secure is it running the complete booking process within an iframe within a FB page?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isn&#8217;t it time you looked at integrating ticketing on Facebook? by Chris Unitt</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/29/isnt-it-time-you-looked-at-integrating-ticketing-on-facebook/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Unitt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At Made Media we did something similar for &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/WarwickArtsCentre?sk=app_290039564354220&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Warwick Arts Centre&lt;/a&gt;.  We built it by modifying the code that we used to build their mobile website, making that pre-existing resource go a little further.

As far as ticketing integration goes, I think these things are good, but really they&#039;re just links from FB back to the venue&#039;s main website. There&#039;s nothing new about that - links from status updates or from FB event descriptions do much the same thing. The only arts venue I&#039;ve seen go the whole way is &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lichfield-Garrick/175717072377?sk=app_159324760805214&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lichfield Garrick&lt;/a&gt; who&#039;ve iframed the whole ticket pathway into a custom tab, and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m entirely convinced by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Made Media we did something similar for <a href="https://www.facebook.com/WarwickArtsCentre?sk=app_290039564354220" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Warwick Arts Centre</a>.  We built it by modifying the code that we used to build their mobile website, making that pre-existing resource go a little further.</p>
<p>As far as ticketing integration goes, I think these things are good, but really they&#8217;re just links from FB back to the venue&#8217;s main website. There&#8217;s nothing new about that &#8211; links from status updates or from FB event descriptions do much the same thing. The only arts venue I&#8217;ve seen go the whole way is <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lichfield-Garrick/175717072377?sk=app_159324760805214" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Lichfield Garrick</a> who&#8217;ve iframed the whole ticket pathway into a custom tab, and I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m entirely convinced by.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do you know of any other successful integrations of CRM with ticketing solutions? by Tim Roberts</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/14/do-you-know-of-any-other-successful-integrations-of-crm-with-ticketing-solutions/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kieran

I am very interested to hear more about the integrations with SRO/Patron Edge/Top Tix/TicketServ.

I have heard some describe Raiser&#039;s Edge as more of a fundraising and development solution than a fully featured CRM solution. But then again, most arts and entertainment organisations don&#039;t need a fully featured CRM solution. Just some extra functionality to better handle: various constituent types, individual/organisation associations and task scheduling with staff allocation/buisness rules would keep a vast majority or organisations a lot happier than they are now. But the crunch is - integrated with their ticketing solution. 

What do you reckon?

Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kieran</p>
<p>I am very interested to hear more about the integrations with SRO/Patron Edge/Top Tix/TicketServ.</p>
<p>I have heard some describe Raiser&#8217;s Edge as more of a fundraising and development solution than a fully featured CRM solution. But then again, most arts and entertainment organisations don&#8217;t need a fully featured CRM solution. Just some extra functionality to better handle: various constituent types, individual/organisation associations and task scheduling with staff allocation/buisness rules would keep a vast majority or organisations a lot happier than they are now. But the crunch is &#8211; integrated with their ticketing solution. </p>
<p>What do you reckon?</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do you know of any other successful integrations of CRM with ticketing solutions? by Kieran Healey</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/14/do-you-know-of-any-other-successful-integrations-of-crm-with-ticketing-solutions/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran Healey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, 

Independent Comment: 

Tess. maybe a sector leader, but it is not a technology leader. 

The advantage of an established CRM is surely that you benefit from the fantastic benefits in that field. True, Ticketing ought to have CRM functionality, but I have yet to see a mature CRM function set within a mature ticketing solution (or vice versa). Aside from Ticketing, the other gap in CRM is usually retail/catering. If you integrate several best of breed solutions - E.g. Ticketing, CRM and Retail, you have risk when it comes to Upgrades. If you select a single CRM and Ticketing solution, you will see CRM functions prioritized alongside Ticketing - they will begin to compete with each other for space on the roadmap. 

As you know - Blackbaud offer integrations to the Blackbaud CRM. 
Our own ticketing solution remains SRO/The Patron Edge. 

In addition venues have integrated ENTA and Gamma Dataware to the Blackbaud CRM. 

I will check in with my international colleagues around the integration between other CRMs and the SRO solution. 

Kieran]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, </p>
<p>Independent Comment: </p>
<p>Tess. maybe a sector leader, but it is not a technology leader. </p>
<p>The advantage of an established CRM is surely that you benefit from the fantastic benefits in that field. True, Ticketing ought to have CRM functionality, but I have yet to see a mature CRM function set within a mature ticketing solution (or vice versa). Aside from Ticketing, the other gap in CRM is usually retail/catering. If you integrate several best of breed solutions &#8211; E.g. Ticketing, CRM and Retail, you have risk when it comes to Upgrades. If you select a single CRM and Ticketing solution, you will see CRM functions prioritized alongside Ticketing &#8211; they will begin to compete with each other for space on the roadmap. </p>
<p>As you know &#8211; Blackbaud offer integrations to the Blackbaud CRM.<br />
Our own ticketing solution remains SRO/The Patron Edge. </p>
<p>In addition venues have integrated ENTA and Gamma Dataware to the Blackbaud CRM. </p>
<p>I will check in with my international colleagues around the integration between other CRMs and the SRO solution. </p>
<p>Kieran</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do you know of any other successful integrations of CRM with ticketing solutions? by Tim Roberts</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/14/do-you-know-of-any-other-successful-integrations-of-crm-with-ticketing-solutions/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a review from &lt;strong&gt;CRM Buyer&lt;/strong&gt; only yesterday - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crmbuyer.com/story/Paciolan-Gives-CRM-a-Lead-Role-in-Event-Ticket-Sales-73735.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Paciolan Gives CRM a Lead Role in Event Ticket Sales&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. 

I do wonder at the level of integration to take a transaction engine to full CRM functionality without a re-write to address the more complex system architecture required. The risk is yet another bolt-on of limited functionality.

Some interesting perspective from the article:

&quot;&lt;em&gt;The company had the resources to build the functionality in-house, he added, although some clients do use outside CRM vendors such as Salesforce.com (NYSE: CRM).&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

&quot;&lt;em&gt;There are 200 people who work for Paciolan and about 80 percent of us are technologists. We knew we could do it and we know our customers better than anyone else, so we knew what they needed,&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a review from <strong>CRM Buyer</strong> only yesterday &#8211; <a href="http://www.crmbuyer.com/story/Paciolan-Gives-CRM-a-Lead-Role-in-Event-Ticket-Sales-73735.html" rel="nofollow"><em>Paciolan Gives CRM a Lead Role in Event Ticket Sales</em></a>. </p>
<p>I do wonder at the level of integration to take a transaction engine to full CRM functionality without a re-write to address the more complex system architecture required. The risk is yet another bolt-on of limited functionality.</p>
<p>Some interesting perspective from the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The company had the resources to build the functionality in-house, he added, although some clients do use outside CRM vendors such as Salesforce.com (NYSE: CRM).</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>There are 200 people who work for Paciolan and about 80 percent of us are technologists. We knew we could do it and we know our customers better than anyone else, so we knew what they needed,</em>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do you know of any other successful integrations of CRM with ticketing solutions? by michelle (@fuzzydinosaur)</title>
		<link>http://fullhouses.org/2011/11/14/do-you-know-of-any-other-successful-integrations-of-crm-with-ticketing-solutions/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michelle (@fuzzydinosaur)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PatronManager *is* one of the systems that does it all. Ceci, you should stop by our booth at NAMP and get the scoop from my colleague Lily. We built a whole ticketing system right in Salesforce -- it&#039;s entirely built on the Force.com platform, so I wouldn&#039;t really call it an &quot;integration&#039; of CRM and ticketing at all. We have a CRM system with ticketing built in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PatronManager *is* one of the systems that does it all. Ceci, you should stop by our booth at NAMP and get the scoop from my colleague Lily. We built a whole ticketing system right in Salesforce &#8212; it&#8217;s entirely built on the Force.com platform, so I wouldn&#8217;t really call it an &#8220;integration&#8217; of CRM and ticketing at all. We have a CRM system with ticketing built in.</p>
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